He loves power. He loves control because others, you know, dad and stuff like that, but he's just a great guy. He's just a great guy.
He loves basketball. And I said Obama loves basketball. Let's start there, all right. Start there.
He wants Obama to do one thing, call him ... He said, if you can, Dennis, I don't want to do war. I don't want to do war. He said that to me.
I hate the fact that he's doing that, but the fact is that, you know what, that's a human being, though. He let his guard down one day to me, a friend.