Of course when people are as talented as Jim O'Rourke or Gene Coleman, pretty soon you know that they're going to be part of the bigger scene anyway.
To speak about notation as the only way that you can guarantee structure of course is already very suspect.
There's an institution here called the National Sound Archive, and there's a character who works there, Paul Wilson. He takes a very special interest in the history of the music and advised Martin Davidson of the existence of these tapes.
If I think about the way I was drawn into the music, it was much more by recordings than by live performances.