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My take on the torture thing and even drones is: If we're going to get into assassination and torture, the second question is the morality, but the first is the effectiveness of it.

Robert Baer
Effectiveness, Drones, Firsts
"Torture, Drones, and Hollywood: A Former CIA Operative Talks". Interview with Ed Rampell, progressive.org. December 23, 2014.
My take on the torture thing and even drones is: If we're going to get into assassination and torture, the second question is the morality, but the first is the effectiveness of it.