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Sometimes people come up and they get infatuated with some little brief imagistic poem or something, and they say, "Oh, I really like your Zen poems." And I say, "Which ones are not Zen poems?"

Interview with Anne-Marie Cusac, www.sharedhost.progressive.org. March 31, 2003.
Sometimes people come up and they get infatuated with some little brief imagistic poem or something, and they say, Oh, I really like your Zen poems. And I say, Which ones are not Zen poems?