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I never talk about being leaders and all the rest of it. I can only remember one or two occasions in my life when I actually issued orders, and I felt thoroughly miserable after doing it.

Edmund Hillary
Order, Two, Leader
"Sir Edmund Hillary's last ever interview". Interview with Maggie Barry, www.noted.co.nz. January 26, 2008.
I never talk about being leaders and all the rest of it. I can only remember one or two occasions in my life when I actually issued orders, and I felt thoroughly miserable after doing it.