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The moment you start thinking it's hopeless, then it is. [But], if you think it's gonna get better, it really does. Life is a test.

The moment you start thinking it's hopeless, then it is. [But], if you think it's gonna get better, it really does. Life is a test.

"David Bowie & Mos Def: The Style Council (2003 Cover Story)". Interview with Ben White, www.complex.com. January 11, 2016.

You have to get to the worst to get better.

The ESPN.com Interview, abcnews.go.com. September 23, 2016.